Internet DRAFT - draft-deng-call-chinese-names
draft-deng-call-chinese-names
Internet Engineering Task Force H. Deng
Internet-Draft Z. Cao
Intended status: Informational China Mobile
Expires: January 16, 2014 July 15, 2013
How to Call Chinese "Han" People's Names
draft-deng-call-chinese-names-01
Abstract
This document tries to give a brief introduction of how to call
Chinese people's name in Chinese way. After reading this, you will
find it quite easy to accomplish that.
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Table of Contents
1. Background . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
2. Way to call Chinese name in mainland . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
3. Most confusion part . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
4. Women . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
5. The 'Four Tones' . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
6. Titles in Use . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
7. Acknowledgement . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
8. IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
9. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
10. Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
Authors' Addresses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
1. Background
There were only two participants from mainland China in the IETF 60th
meeting at San Diego, while today there are more than 150
participants from mainland China each time. But it seems that there
are still many diffculties for English speaking people to correctly
call Chinese people's names. This document is purposefully trying to
make it easy for English speaking people who care. It mainly
discusses about "Han" people in mainland of China, and doesn't
include other 55 minority group who speak their own languages.
2. Way to call Chinese name in mainland
In China, when we call somebody's name, we usually put his/her family
name first, and given name last.
Most Family names have only one Chinese character, and only a few
consist of two characters.
For given names, both one-character names and two-character names are
common.
So normally people names have two to three Chinese characters (Today
even for). For those whose names have two characters, we normally
speak out all the characters in their names. For those whose names
have more than two characters, we normally speak out their given name
only, which is similar to English way.
For example, Hui Deng, as an author of the draft, is a name of two
characters, where we put his given name first "Hui", but when we call
him, Chinese people usually call him Deng Hui (without titles in use,
when titles are used, refer to the next section).
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Take 'Xiaodong Duan' as another example. This is a name of three
characters (Xiaodong as the given name and Duan is the family name).
So Chinese people would usually neglect its family name, and just
call him by using his given names - Xiaodong.
People only call two characters probably because they prefer only two
syllables other to three syllables, one Chinese character normally
has only one syllable.
Getting back, when people are not familiar with each other or
introduce each other Chinese people will use full name to show their
respects whatever two, three or four characters
3. Most confusion part
Because both Chinese and English speakers may try to conform with
other language, so chinese people will put their given name in the
front and family name in the end, like "Hui Deng" in the Internet
draft, but English speaker will try to read the name by following
chinese way. "Hui Deng", then it get confusion.
It is more common for the family name to come first when written in
Pinyin. A useful and growing convention is to write the family name
in all caps. Using the above example, if "Deng" were the family
name, you might see: "Hui DENG" or "DENG Hui"
4. Women
Most of the Chinese women don't change to our husband's family name.
So, Ida Leung's husband is not Mr Leung. They love to keep our own
family name. Today some chinese kid have both father and mother's
family name, then given name.
5. The 'Four Tones'
This document has used four tones of Chinese (1: Even level; 2:
Rising; 3: Departing; 4: Entering). We usually denoted using the
alphanumeric. For example, Deng4 Hui1.
Mandarin uses four tones to clarify the meanings of words. Since
many characters have the same sound, tones are used to differentiate
words from each other. Similar to the different intonations in
English language.
The tones sometimes are difficult to learn, as intonations and
pitches in English to non-native speakers. Normally people who speak
Latin can only pronounce the 'Even level', because there are no
equivalent differentiation in those language as we had guessed.
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6. Titles in Use
Most chinese people are called by different names according to the
relationship between each other. In other words, parents call their
children by one name, his/her friends call him/her by something else,
and colleagues have another name for him. These different names
include titles (terms of respect), nicenames, and so on. Humble
attitude is an authentic tradition in chinese culture, the
respectation by using special terms is always given to the people
according to his/her occupation or status in society.
Nowadays, there are many commonly used titles. Two generic titles
that have similar meanings to "Mr." and "Ms./Mrs." are "Xian1sheng1"
and "Nv3Shi4". These two titles have been widely used either between
peoples who are unfamiliar with each other, or during the formal
situations like the conference.( the digits 1,2,3,4 in this section
are intentional and they are used to denote the tone , will be
explained in later section)
Another two commonly used titles are "Jiao4shou4" and "Lao3shi1"
which indicate that people is a professor or instructor. Suppose the
surname of that professor or teacher is "Zhang", then you could him/
her "Zhang Jiao4shou4" or "Zhang Lao3shi1". Other titles which also
have been widely used are as follows: "Lao3ban3" stands for the boss
of the company, "Zhu3Xi2" stands for "chairman", "Zong" stands for
"President of company", in most cases, you can add his surname in
front of the title. Rare cases, add his/her given name in front of
the title.
An unknown person such as taxi driver on the street can be called as
"Shi1fu1". The term means "Master", and it may means that he can
help to bring you somewhere.
7. Acknowledgement
Authors would like to thank Margaret Wasserman for understanding to
encourage English speaking people to learn how to call Chinese name,
"Deng Hui" would thanks Kent Leung's encouragement on writing this
document. And many thanks go to Fred baker, Sri Gundave, Jari Arkko
and Ted Lemmon for calling our names in chinese way already. Thanks
also Yu Juan for detail revision of this document.
After submited the initial version draft, this draft has been revised
from many kind advices for revision from Cameron Byrne, Ida Leung, S.
Moonesamy, Will Liu, Mikael Abrahamsson, Simon Perreault, Stephen
Sprunk, John C Klensin, Ted Hardie, Melinda Shore, Noel Chiappa,
George Wes, Randy Bush,
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8. IANA Considerations
NO IANA Requests.
9. Security Considerations
N/A.
10. Informative References
[ChineseNames]
Wikipedia, ., "Chinese Names,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_name", May 2013.
[Pinyin] Wikipedia, ., "Pinyin,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin", May 2013.
[Tones] Wikipedia, ., "Tones,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_tones", May 2013.
Authors' Addresses
Hui Deng
China Mobile
Xuanwumenxi Ave. No.32
Beijing 100053
China
Email: denghui@chinamobile.com
Zhen Cao
China Mobile
Xuanwumenxi Ave. No.32
Beijing, Beijing 100053
China
Email: zehn.cao@gmail.com, caozhen@chinamobile.com
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